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Because it’s so good. The first verse of WH Auden’s poem Atlantis. (There are many more verses, and I believe the poem can be found online if you google!)

13 thoughts on “atlantis

  1. That’s until Alicia thinks better of putting up with my posting Grateful Dead links … if I’m given an inch there, I’ll likely take a mile :)

  2. The ethereal kiosk can use some music; I mean, it does get awfully silent when Rudi nods off and stops lecturing (except the snoring which is better drowned in other noices quite frankly), and he nods off a lot these days. It’s tiring to live in the realm beyond. Also, we serve him lots of cognac. To help him nod off. He keeps repeating himself a lot.

    Anyway, have a blast. If I had earphones, or what’s it called, to my phone, I’d listen too. I’ll listen when I switch on the computer. Or better yet — ethereal music!! Without technology, of course ;-)

  3. It might be. I don’t hate *all* music. It’s just something I say… ;-) Mostly I loathed having to participate in music, it just wasn’t my thing to sing and play instruments. So it was always easier to say you hate music. It amounts to the same thing anyway; recorded music on an electronic device was never music to these people anyway.

  4. Ah, you exaggerate your dislike of music! Aha! So it remains possible I could make you into a deadhead!! :) give it a try, press the little button … of course, anthroposphists are right in this point: the little button will give you a sad, thin, extremely “lossy” version of a beautiful song that will sound nothing like how it sounded live, or even on a good sound system.

    So, come to think of it, please don’t play it unless you have really good earphones; I hate to actually turn people OFF to the Dead.

  5. Yep — I always *listened* to music. I used to be a big Depeche Mode fan — they were dark enough and, back then, almost completely synth. Much later I think they added guitars even. I liked, still do, the electronic sound. The stuff that would never be approved of for waldorf kids of course. I’m still completely uninterested in classical music though.

  6. I think there are a couple of posts about the waldorf music teacher on this blog. She wrote in my last year report, I always forget what they’re called in English, that she hoped I wouldn’t dislike music all my life. Just because I didn’t voluntarily participate in her damn flute and choir crap. That stuff I hate. Still. Always did. And it was all that ever counted. Even my mum had this idea that everyone who doesn’t learn to play instruments as a child will regret it later. That’s just bizarre, i m o.

  7. Everyone has their blinders. We are readers, and we had strong feelings that “Every child who doesn’t read … certain books” will be tragically disadvantaged, for life. So we filled in every single gap there, that we possibly could, for our child. (And at least at this stage of his life, he isn’t much of a reader.)

    If the parents are musical, they will feel that way about exposing their children to music. I’m sure there are many parents who would feel I have tragically handicapped my child by not exposing him to … fill in the blank (obviously, religion!) I do still regret that I didn’t do a better job exposing my son to classic film … now THERE’S an area where a child really will be culturally disadvantaged if they don’t get these cultural references … but we started too late … he’s not “fluent” in film, if you know what I mean. My friend who loves cooking, thinks we have raised an adult who will be an imbecile in the kitchen … so it goes. Other people will feel we handicapped him by not traveling enough, or debating politics enough, or teaching him to sew.

    Waldorf is on to something with the notion that children should learn a lot of practical skills, and be exposed to a lot of art and music. This is a great educational principle. It’s just that they limit it to their own peculiar little aesthetic/spiritual world and make a religious neurosis out of it. Only a few can fit their mold, and the rest are … warped.

    It’s heartbreakingly easy to do just as much damage as good, as any parent knows, when you set out to instruct your child in something you think is good for him. Waldorf is just one version of this.

  8. You’re so right about waldorf. And I wouldn’t say it’s a bad thing they have the children trying out various instruments, if we’re talking about music (but the same of course applies in other areas). It’s just that when it becomes fanatical, when it takes on this almost supernatural importance… like you’re lost for life if flute playing means nothing to you… Then it’s a definite problem. And there’s a point when you’ve got to accept that, although we exposed this child to all these things we find lovely, the child really has other talents and should be left free to pursue them instead.

    I mean, I hated music but the school’s policy was that everyone had to play one instrument in their sparetime in addition to the mandatory music stuff in school. It’s just a waste of time, money and it costs a lot of frustration to the child and to the instrument teacher who gets a child who just hates it all. My mum sought out one of the supposedly best piano teachers. Other people who were taught by her felt priveleged (I’ve met people who were taught by her, but they were there because they loved the piano). I never had any intention of learning anything and didn’t give a damn. Clearly, it doesn’t make sense.

    Interestingly, neither one of my parents are musical. It was just an idea that got stuck in my mum’s head: that if you don’t learn, you’ll regret it. And once that idea had got stuck in her mind, it took her a decade to realize I wasn’t going to live up it.

    I can’t understand why she got that fixation on music, it could have been anything. It’s funny because it would have been more clever if she’d asked if I wanted to play the piano. Basically, if the child hates it, s/he’s not going to learn anything. After so many years of me expressing hatred over the damn music in school — she arranges for lessons with one of the popular piano teachers who teaches the talented kids. It’s like a set-up for trouble. This was when I was already in 5th grade, so I don’t know what went through her head.

    My brother played the flute, but he did so happily and voluntarily. It’s such a difference then.

  9. But, yes, it’s true, of course, that parents have these ideas about what their child ought to be exposed to and that it is usually based upon some idea about what’s good for the child. They don’t do it to be evil. On the other hand, it is so easy it goes wrong. In particular if pursued with religious fervour.

    Not that my mum did that. But it was pretty silly to arrange for piano lessons at that stage. At some point the time has come to realize that adding an instrument and another teacher just won’t help. It was so blatant, my lack of interest (not to speak of the total absence of talent… ouch).

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